Friday, February 24, 2017

Small Council: Which characters from the books do you wish Game of Thrones hadn’t omitted?

Game of Thrones is a complex show, with a larger cast than you’ll find in most places on TV. And yet there’re still a lot characters from the books who didn’t make the cut. Now that the show is entering its final seasons, we can probably give up hope of seeing a good chunk of them onscreen. Who do we wish the show hadn’t left out?

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DAN: I have a recurring daydream where Helen Mirren plays Lady Barbrey Dustin. It’s weird, I know. It started a couple years back when Mirren gave an interview and said she’d love to play a character on the show, preferably one who was “[v]ery cold and cruel.” Hmm, I thought. Helen Mirren wants to play a baddie on Game of Thrones. And if Helen Mirren wants to be on your show, it’s probably in your best interest to do what she wants, because she’s Helen Mirren and she’s awesome.

We meet Lady Barbrey Dustin in A Dance with Dragons. She’s harbored a deep grudge against the Starks ever since Robert’s Rebellion, when Ned failed to bring home her husband’s bones after he died fighting down south. Consequently, she has no problems joining up with the Boltons after they take Winterfell, although she harbors grudges against them, too. She’s grudges up and down, this woman. “Cold and cruel” indeed.

Like a lot of Martin’s characters, there were wrinkles to Barbrey Dustin, and I could have stood to see more wrinkles when it came to the Bolton side of the Bolton-Stark rivalry in seasons 5 and 6. She could have lent that plotline more weight. I imagine she was cut for time, and that’s a shame. (Arya mentioned House Dustin to Tywin in season 2, incidentally, but it looks like that was a throwaway detail.)

And if Helen Mirren played her…well, the show would pretty much have been guaranteed a Best Guest Actress Emmy. (I know they would have had to age the character up a bit, but they’ve had to problems with that before.)

COREY: This is a tough question, because the books are filled with so many vivid and complex characters that even when some of them shows up on screen they can be neutered versions of their literary selves. In the books, Areo Hotah is a top-tier warrior who dispatches a knight of the Kingsguard in epic fashion, but on screen he’s killed by a very short girl wielding a steak knife. Meanwhile, Wyman Manderly is one of House Stark’s most powerful vassals. In the novels, he delivers a great speech that firmly establishes his undying loyalty to the Starks before proceeding to murder Freys, bake them into pies, and serve them to the Boltons. But on the show he’s an apologetic toad only briefly seen when Jon Snow is elected King in the North. This is what we are missing out on.

But if I had to choose one character from the books I miss most, it would be Victarion Greyjoy. Victarion is a younger brother of Balon and Euron Greyjoy, and commander of the Iron fleet. After Euron seizes the Salt Throne, Victarion is sent to Meereen to fetch Daenerys Targaryen for Euron. Euron and Victarion have a long and complicated history, as Euron actually impregnated Victarion’s wife, which led to his banishment by Balon. This history leads Euron to conspire to ally with Dany himself, in much the same way Yara attempts to do on the show.

Victarion is a thoroughbred warrior, and his battles in the books are brutal. Victarion’s journey to Meereen in the books is much more eventful than Yara and Theon’s on the show. Along the way, Victarion captures ships, picks up a shipwrecked Red Priest named Moqorro, has his wounded hand fused solid black by said priest and finally joins in the Battle of Meereen. Quite the adventure.

It seems Victarion’s role was split between Euron, Yara, and Theon on the show. None of them equal Victarion for ferocity in battle, though, and his absence means we lose out on some of the House Greyjoy family dynamic. Victarion loathes Euron for the affair with his wife, but refuses to act for fear of kinslaying. Turning a feared warrior into the lackey of the man that slept with his wife is twisted even for George R.R. Martin, and we lose all that by splitting his role among the remaining Greyjoys.

SARAH: I’m going to have to opt for Arianne Martell, the eldest child of Doran Martell. The reason I’ve chosen this particular character is not because I’m overly fond of her, but because her inclusion would have changed the Dornish plot entirely, and most of us can agree that Dorne was poorly executed on screen. Every moment spent in Dorne in season 5 was messy, particularly the fight scene between Bronn, Jaime and the Sand Snakes, which was straight out of a Benny Hill sketch. See the video below for evidence.

Some backstory for non-book readers: in the books, Arianne is introduced to us as the heir apparent to Dorne, and she suspects that her father is plotting to pass her over for her younger brother, Quentyn. Angered by this, and by the fact that her father is unwilling to avenge the deaths of Oberyn and Elia, Arianne hatches a plan to avenge the deaths of her aunt and uncle by installing Myrcella Baratheon as Queen of the Seven Kingdoms in accordance with Dornish law. In doing this, she hopes to bring about a war between Myrcella and her brother, Tommen. Ultimately, her plan fails, but it is revealed that Doran had only ever hoped to give Sunspear to Quentyn because he once intended for his daughter to marry Viserys Targaryen, and become queen. He is revealed to be playing a long game with the Lannisters, intent on getting his revenge by siding with Daenerys.

Arianne’s inclusion in the show and her plan to crown Myrcella — assuming they stuck to her plot — would have made a lot more sense than Ellaria Sand’s ridiculous decision to murder an innocent girl — a decision that went against her dead lover’s values. Furthermore, I enjoyed the relationship Arianne had with her father. Unlike many parent-child relationships in the series, she and her father are pretty close. Doran may not have been honest with her from the beginning, but ultimately he treats her with respect, and there is admiration on both sides.

Moreover, I find Doran Martell to be one of the more interesting characters in the books. He plays his cards close to his chest, keeping his enemies in the dark, slick enough to fool even his own children. The revelation of his master plan was a really enjoyable moment for me when I first read A Feast for Crows, and I feel like his character was done a great injustice on screen when he was revealed to be a man with no plan at all. If the show had stuck with elements of the original plot, we could have seen a better side to him.

RAZOR: Oh come on! Now I finally know what Admiral Ackbar felt like when the rebel fleet was attacking the Death Star: IT’S A TRAP! You all know I’m going to pick Lady Stoneheart, so let’s get on with it. Of course I wish the reanimated corpse of Lady Catelyn Stark — the vengeful rage-zombie that haunts the Riverlands hunting and hanging Frey’s — was part of the show. She’s one of my favorite characters from the books. I can still remember reading the epilogue of A Storm of Swords and getting so stoked that with this new(ish) character, the Starks would finally be getting some revenge for the Red Wedding.

Well, that revenge didn’t come as swiftly as I’d hoped, but Lady Stoneheart’s brief appearances in the subsequent books were still exciting.

I’ve seen many counter-arguments to my Lady Stoneheart obsession, the most prominent being that she wouldn’t push the narrative forward, and I have to say I kind of agree. Despite the fact that I want her on Game of Thrones (and will until the credits role on the season 8 finale), the show has done a fantastic job of filling Lady Stoneheart’s role through Lady Catelyn’s daughters — Sansa and Arya.

Sansa has taken a much more cerebral approach to revenge. In season 6, she convinced Jon Snow to help her rally the North to evict the Boltons from Winterfell. That’s something Lady Stoneheart would never have been able to do. And Arya went on a minor murder spree when she left Braavos and killed old Walder Frey and two of his idiot sons. Arya is fulfilling Lady Stoneheart actual role by killing Freys, but Sansa is still possessed of her mother’s vengeful spirit, which was on full display when she fed Ramsay Bolton to his dogs and walked away with a slight smile.

So there you have it: Yes, I would love for David Benioff and Dan Weiss to add Lady Stoneheart to Game of Thrones (even at this late date), but I know that she lives on through her daughters, and that’s enough for me.

Note: You can choose two characters.



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Round-Up: Symphony Tracks Released, Actress Reflects on Character’s Death, Actor Dismisses Popular Theory

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Just yesterday Petra offered us her wonderful review of the Game of Thrones Live Concert. As I find myself half a world away, I felt quite jealous, but today those of us who were not (and will not be) lucky enough to attend any of these events will be able to get a little taste of it: There are plenty of unofficial low quality recordings of this or that song, but what lies below the cut are the first clean tracks directly from the symphony.

Also, Natalie Dormer reflects on her character’s explosive farewell at the end of last season, and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau surprises us über fans by knocking down a popular theory (one of the most widely accepted ones!) involving Jaime and Cersei’s fate.

Classic FM exclusively released a track from the Live Concert: “Winter Has Come.” You can give it a listen here, as their video is not embeddable. Silva Screen Records also shared a track from one of the season’s most momentous scenes: Light of the Seven:

If you are interested, you can buy Ramin Djawadi’s album of the Game of Thrones Symphony performed by the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra here.

The Huffington Post talked to Nikolaj Coster-Waldau about a variety of topics, including being a Goodwill Ambassador for the UN Procurement Division, his campaign with Google Street View to raise awareness on climate change, and of course Game of Thrones. Interestingly, Jaime’s actor doesn’t seem particularly fond of what is probably the most popular and widely accepted fan theory and prediction about his character: that Jaime will eventually kill his sister and former lover, the now queen Cersei.

This idea is the most usual iteration of the “Valonqar theory”, named after the Valyrian term “little brother.” In the books, Maggy the fortune-teller was a bit more forthcoming about Cersei’s fate than in the show: she predicted that the “valonqar” would be her ultimate demise. Of course, Cersei interprets this to mean Tyrion, which is the most obvious answer from her perspective, but it could well be Jaime, and that is what most avid fans seem to believe. Though Coster-Waldau acknowledges the tragic beauty of it, the actor believes this may be a bit too obvious as well:

“It’s a theory … but it has a beautiful, romantic, tragic thing [to it]. It’s probably too obvious.” However, he amended this by clarifying that, of course, he has “no idea” how it will turn out — Which, if true, means the incestuous siblings survive season seven.

Of course, Nikolaj has an insight into the character and understands just how meaningful this would be, not only because of their personal history but because she is proving to be quite the spiritual successor to the Mad King, who Jaime slayed back in the day. But is there something to his argument? Is it too obvious? Tyrion is certainly obvious, as Cersei believes he’ll be the culprit. Did George R. R. Martin expect us to go along with Cersei or did he know we would think it’s Jaime instead? Technically, it could be anyone — There are “little brothers” and little sisters aplenty in Westeros. But would the prophecy hold any real significance if it wasn’t Cersei’s own blood? Would the Mad Queen’s death be as meaningful if it wasn’t at the hands of the Kingslayer? All good questions. And I suspect we’ll have to wait another year before we get answers.

Finally, Natalie Dormer was recently interviewed by Mashable while promoting Mass Effect: Andromeda, a new video game in which she is lending her voice to an alien doctor character — and I’m quite excited about it, both as a fan of the series and of the actress. However, she did not only hype up this upcoming video game but also looked back on her involvement in Game of Thrones, particularly Margaery’s death:

“It’s an occupational hazard – being a Game of Thrones member of cast. You’re always kind of half anticipating that phone call, so” the actress joked. “She went out with a bang, didn’t she? She went out with a bang. And you’ve got to give credit to Dan and David, the creators of the show — they just keep coming up with new ways of killing people [laughter]. I think wildfire was a pretty imaginative [way] — It would’ve been over quickly, bless her. I wouldn’t want Margaery suffering any pain.”

If you want to see Dormer and listen to her (who wouldn’t) discuss Game of Thrones, Mass Effect: Andromeda and what unites them both, watch the video above.

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Video: Fascinating exploration of the role of death on Game of Thrones

“There is only one God, and his name is Death.” That’s one of the first things Syrio Forel told Arya Stark during her water dancing lessons. Since then, the idea of Death has become a major touchstone of the Game of Thrones universe. Death itself may as well be vying for the Iron Throne at this point.

YouTuber Will Schoder turned his attention to the subject with a video essay entitled “The Repercussions of Morality.” It’s a fascinating, well-researched piece that takes a close look at one of the show’s most iconic phrases: All Men Must Die. Take a look for yourself below.

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When George R.R. Martin first published A Game of Thrones in 1996, there were nine main characters through whose perspectives we saw the story unfold. As he progressed through A Dance With Dragons, that number expanded to 31. Schoder argues that Martin isn’t a typical fantasy writer, as many of the storylines don’t follow the ‘hero saves the day’ redemption arc. Instead, by letting us experience the plot right alongside whichever player is witnessing it at the moment, we become emotionally invested, which means we’re primed for the writer to throw a wrench into things and kill people.

One of the first major deaths in the series, that of Lord Eddard Stark, happened mainly because of his character’s choices, even though he made them according to an upstanding moral code. The point is, no matter what a character’s motivation is, be it the good-hearted Ned or the devilish Joffrey, Game of Thrones adheres to the “All Men Must Die” rule. This is what makes Martin’s creations so fascinating. Their mortality makes it easier to identify with them, so we’re devastated when they pass on.

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The End

Game of Thrones also shies away from sugar-coating things. Once a character is gone, they stay gone (unless you’re Beric Dondarrion or Jon Snow, of course). There’s a distinct sense of finality when a character dies, since we see a ripple effect of emotion from everyone close to the deceased. We see periods where these characters grieve. It makes things very real and sometimes uncomfortable, as we’re forced to question our own mortality.

Bringing it back to Jon Snow, he’s one of two people to actually come back from the dead in the series. But in Season 6’s “Oathbreaker,” he tells Melisandre there is nothing after death, only darkness. Him knowing what lies beyond the great beyond completely changes him, and he’s left spending every waking moment doing all he can while he can.

It’s a good guide to how we should all be living each day. One of the few things all humans have in common is we all have an expiration date, even if we’re not eaten alive by hounds or shot through with a quarrel to the chest. The hope is that we have a nice time while we’re here, and we stick by our own sense of morality.

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To see more of Will Schoder’s commentaries, check out his YouTube channel or Facebook page.


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